tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1948836453070904205.post227036116854875394..comments2023-10-30T22:08:56.616+11:00Comments on "...ascending and descending...": An Exegesis of Genesis 28:12orczyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10966522854508330890noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1948836453070904205.post-14778337754832789702010-02-15T17:26:10.142+11:002010-02-15T17:26:10.142+11:00[... ] is other interesting source of information ...[... ] is other interesting source of information on this subject[...]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1948836453070904205.post-34215881786320626332009-10-25T14:27:58.801+11:002009-10-25T14:27:58.801+11:00Informative article. I enjoyed it.
I think it is...Informative article. I enjoyed it.<br /><br />I think it is significant that what Jacob experienced was in a dream that awoke him with a sense of divine presence.<br /><br />Likewise, I think that the promise to Nathaniel, and those like him (the "you will see" is a plural you), is a promise of an altered state of consciousness involving a sense of the presence of God.<br /><br />Although "ascending and descending" appear in that order only once. In John, the pattern of ascend and descent of the son of man runs through the whole narrative.<br /><br />It adds to a sense of the otherworldliness of Jesus, who refers to himself in third person as "son of man." I think it is interesting that likewise, when Paul talks about an ascent to "third heaven" he speaks in the third person.<br /><br />That is significant. It is an effort to show the listener that the person that they are looking at in the flesh is not to be confused with the person who ascends. There is a physical body and a spiritual body, as Paul says. Or as Jesus says in John, "that born of flesh is flesh, and of spirit is spirit."<br /><br />Perhaps I ramble.<br /><br />Warm Regards,<br /><br />GregoryGregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12213153779887552125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1948836453070904205.post-70247848127700162502009-05-15T23:33:00.000+10:002009-05-15T23:33:00.000+10:0072%72%orczyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10966522854508330890noreply@blogger.com